PW - you sound like a real right-wing Republican all right! lol Insightful post, but I do think that because of our economic prosperity, we have the luxury of worrying about things like the environment and better health care. For people that live in countries with no middle class - you don't have the luxury of worring about those things - you have to worry more about food, shelter, and so on. Also, the way you view Government, you give them credit for being organized in their evil intentions. I know a few Gov't employees...talk about a bunch of castrated people with no control over anythinng.... Glad to have you back. I figured something like that would pop out. It's interesting to note that, America spends a little over 2-3 times as much as the rest of the world on health yet we are one of the sickest nations in the world. We also are the richest nation in the world and yet have the worst environmental track record. Other nations who are poorer and have to look where their next meal is coming from do not have anything like the environmental crises we have here. Also why are some of these poor nations healthier than we are here in the U.S.? Because we have a barbarian system when it comes to healthcare, designed specifically to jack up the price for everything so that Americans are literally drowning in debt. Watch Michael Moore’s new movies that has come out "Sicko" I know, your probably don't like Moore, but it's impossible to refute what hey shows in this movie. I did not like his bowling for Columbine very much, but this one is great, I swear.

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Muidugi Do you mean Moores as in the race? Or Moore as in the Writer and political truth seeker? If you do not like Moore the truth seeker than I can guess you dislike the poor as lazy bums and despire the cold hard truth about reality. You rather live in a dream world that stays in the hands of the few and powerful right? That's only if your talking about Moore the writer.

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Moore is a writer? And a truth seeker? LOL. We had a communist newspaper called "Pravda" - "The Truth" in Soviet Union. I bet that's where Michael Moore learned from.

Did anyone see Moore's on air argument about the movie with Dr. Gupta on CNN? I was not really surprise to see how weak Moore is when confronted by actual argument. He counts on movie audiences. Who don't know anything. You can make a movie like that on any issue. Nothing has value without counterpoints and intellectual discourse. ________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский

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Muidugi You really need to see his new movie and not judge him by what Radio hosts who are payed millions to slander him say about his works. That is the problem with most Republicans, Not all mind you, just most. It seems you all just listen to a bunch of hate slathering morons like Rush Limbo and take everything he says for truth without doing any real unbiased research. I have personally researched Rush's information and found almost all of it to be half truths or outright lies. I cannot name the times that some idiot approached me with what Rush spoon fed his Ethereal mind fart machine. If you can think for yourself and show me why Moore is a evil communist devil, and not just name call him than I will listen. Prove his own facts wrong and I will listen. yes some of Moores info is not on point, I also research him, but most of that is mistakes and the vast majority of his info is on point. So go watch his movie.. "Sicko" I'm serious, it will change your mind, unless your scared of that. :)

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And yes. In this country most of the poor are poor because they chose to be poor.

PW. Why don't you find an archive of "Pravda" somewhere? You'll be convinced the Soviet Union was the best country ever.

Did both of you ever see Moore and Bill Oreily go at it? Moore slaughtered Bill, I mean flat mentally raped him! I have seen Moore at his best, I have often seen him sluggish. He will not really defend his movie because it does not need to be defended! I have talked with doctors who admit Moore is right. If movies were so easy to make that could prove any point thousands would be mainstream right now, but most are quickly crushed into the ground because they cannot stand. Moores movies have stood firm, Moore is also getting tired of fighting the system, it tends to wear you out. I can understand if he get's weary from hot steam headed repulicans speating thier venom repeatedly in his face. Oh and by the way, Russia calling itself communist is just propaganda, during thee Soviet Union it had Totalitarnism as a form of goverment, countries with Socialism (Not communism) are doing very well right now. Argue all you want, but U.S. is following Romes tracks straight to the flames of obliteration. I love my country, yet that is the prescise reason I try to change it. Everything America has achieved was won by the blood of patriots not the mulings of people who tell us not to change anything and just shut up and support our goverment. Sound like homeland security? Who supported that one?

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Originally posted by Peaceful Warrior: Did both of you ever see Moore and Bill Oreily go at it? Moore slaughtered Bill, I mean flat mentally raped him! I have seen Moore at his best, I have often seen him sluggish. He will not really defend his movie because it does not need to be defended! I have talked with doctors who admit Moore is right. If movies were so easy to make that could prove any point thousands would be mainstream right now, but most are quickly crushed into the ground because they cannot stand. Moores movies have stood firm, Moore is also getting tired of fighting the system, it tends to wear you out. I can understand if he get's weary from hot steam headed repulicans speating thier venom repeatedly in his face. Oh and by the way, Russia calling itself communist is just propaganda, during thee Soviet Union it had Totalitarnism as a form of goverment, countries with Socialism (Not communism) are doing very well right now. Argue all you want, but U.S. is following Romes tracks straight to the flames of obliteration. I love my country, yet that is the prescise reason I try to change it. Everything America has achieved was won by the blood of patriots not the mulings of people who tell us not to change anything and just shut up and support our goverment. Sound like homeland security? Who supported that one?

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wow, this is 'snake', repackaged and redesigned into a different model, and much dumber, of course.

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Andrei Sakharov was fighting the system. Moore is doing exactly what "Pravda" was doing - mixing the facts and collecting his money.

PW - where did you grow up? I'm worried about you going over to Russia now. You are ripe to be recruited as a KGB agent and turned against America. Moore is poisoning your mind. I appreciate your view points but you are taking it all too personally. We need to stop this cycle of hatred between Dem's and Republicans. You are seething anger. Do you realize the political tension in this country has not been this bad since right before the civil war? The media is part of the problem, but the people in the street need to rise above the hatred. My company pays for much of my medical insurance. If I need brain surgery it will cost me $15 (co-pay) and I will likely survive the surgery...not so in other countries. PW - I do have a bit of bad news for you. I've contacted my Gov't friends in the ReProgramming department, and they are on their way to your house now. I can promise the reprogramming will be minimially invasive - as long as you cooperate. "Your ad here:"

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"Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

James, I saw a lot more partizanship in the 90s than i see now. When both parties were united and on the offensive. I'd say the problem is not opposition to the other side, but an infatuation with one's own. Think about it. Agree with most of the rest of your post, I don't talk to PW directly, and don't spit against the wind :) ________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский

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I knew my opinion on some things would be unpopular around here but jeez. I mean Egor? Why all the hate? Won't talk to me directly, won't spit against the wind? What are you stuck up or somthing? Or just hold yourself as supurior? I know James is more Republican, yet I still think of him as a freind. Most of my freinds are Republicans and it's nice to have differing ideas that we can converse and debate about! So please, can we smoke the peace pipe, or is my IQ high enough to do that with you? LOL just messing. But serious about the peace pipe.

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Sorry man, I am partly kidding of course. James used to ask me why I hate him too :) I am sure he doesn't think that anymore! Here's the deal.. I find tirades pointless. You make a point, back it up, show proof, show reasoning. Have a logical thought flow that people can read, think about, and respond. Instead, a lot of new people (James did this too) are here to air out grievances.. Endless paragraphs of haphazard thoughts, with no logical flow, some wierd metaphores, analogies, off the wall comparisons, poor sentence structure. Basically just pouring out all the sewage we have in our brains. Even if it can be pieced together into an understandable compilation of thoughts, its at best, very hard to read. I think this is referred to in American literature as "stream of consciousness" :) Perfected by Faulkner. But let's face it - none of us are Faulkner :) Eventually you learn that no one responds to these tirades with anything but personal attacks, and you change :) ________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский

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