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с чем едять американцев?

Last post 07-12-2007, 6:22 by Sappho. 302 replies.
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  •  07-15-2007, 12:19 155964 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    Egor, does Margarita have a sister? OK, seriously though. This whole brain/universe thing is another angle of the God=Universe=Nature theory. Rather than address all your points in theoretical terms, let's take this back to Relationships. My favorite theme!! :-) In your original post about Margarita, you mentioned that you are helping her (and helping you) evolve spiritually. I have ALWAYS had a '-' in my Spirituality chemistry category, because I have not yet figured out how 2 people who don't follow organized religion are supposed to connect spiritually. Basically, people who think 'outside the box' when it comes to religion somehow have to reconcile spirituality on a level that brings them together (so much easier to just believe in any organized religion). So - it sounds like you have first hand experience in that area? let's hear it. I've said this before on here - the universe/nature/God has been around SO much longer than Man or organized religion. We are all part of the universe and a part of the universe is us....the whole topic goes so far beyond what is easy to put into words.....you are taking more of a physics angle: matter/anti-matter?/energy/....I see it more matter-of-fact...we humans are just another being (energy) in the universe - smart enough to figure out about 1% of what's really going on around us. I'm not some nature freak a la Al Gore that worries about global warming. I just feel like we are all part of something much bigger than we can get our arms around. Thinking that religion or God is something you can study in a book is IGNORANT - but that hasn't kept millions of people from killing in the name of organized religion ever since somebody first came up with the word GOD. Anyway....complicated "Hopeless in Atlanta"
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-15-2007, 1:06 155965 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    There are more angles than we can count when it comes to describing the infinite mystery that is Life. As one of my favorite sayings go... "Life is not an eternal Search for God; Life is an eternal expression of God." Religion is a series of human beliefs and conceptions that are based upon the limited perception of Fear and retribution. The biggest mistake in religion, (at least that I see) is that we create a God that is a replica of an all powerful Human. To say it another way, we take a quick to anger, selfish, aggressive and vengeful human give him super powers and call him GOD, that is the essence of most Religions. If you want a true sense of how vast and expansive the Universe is take this perception. At any given time the Human Being has over 27 trillion cells who are (very conscious and capable of making their own choices) working simultaneously to create and maintain... YOU, a divine unique identity conscience of its own existence. How marvelous is that? Now if 27 trillion cells do that for us, imagine what we do for GOD! Imagine that the Earth is a single cell in the universe, and every planet is a cell with its own unique properties, the only deference between the planets and our own cells is a few rungs in the evolutionary ladder. These Planets (Cells) Make up a being of even higher conscience, one that we cannot even imagine, I mean can our cells comprehend us? And this immense being has trillions of its own company making up an even larger more immense Conscious! Do you see where this is going? That's how much we know about the universe, we have just awoken to the fact that *we are...WE EXIST*! That is how open our mind, body and soul need to be, we must understand that nature of ourselves. You may hear people say, "Our nature is war, our nature is to kill and rob and steal and lie, we are essentially evil" And I would say okay, but is not the opposite true? It is self evident that everything is in our nature. That is the power of choice, we choose what we are, and we literally create our own reality together and separate! All the time you hear people blaming God for this blaming God for that and my only response is this. We live in a Universe of supreme Love. Everything is Love, yet in order to understand that love we must as spirits, enter a reality that has loves opposite in order to experience what we truly are. Without Hate how could we thrive with the essence of courage? Without Fear how could we truly Love? Without Pain how could we know pleasure? Without Sorrow where would we experience Bliss? Without Greed how could we experience Generosity? Without Illness who would know the joy of being a Healer? Universal being is perfect in Harmony with all things. It is only Human Perception that is flawed and cannot grasp the perfection of what is. Yet in a way it is meant to be like this. For without great challenges how could we obtain the Glory that is our most Sacred Quest? We as people, deep in our souls all desire Glory of an ultimate nature, we all feel our quests calling. Most people have simply been conditioned to ignore this and accept society’s reality. This is the greatest Irony, we know so little but believe that we are all there is, what could possibly be beyond? "Our perception of Death is like a horizon, and like a horizon it only goes as far as the eyes can see, but we all know there is more beyond, we have only forgotten this fact," And with that I am out.
  •  07-15-2007, 1:08 155966 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    WE ARE GOD. WE ARE ONE. WE ARE LOVE. WE ARE PART OF THE UNIVERSAL VIBE. WE ARE ALL ENERGY. WE CANNOT DENY THIS FORVER.
  •  07-15-2007, 1:46 155967 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    Count me in. I'll drink the kool-aid. :-) "Hopeless in Atlanta"
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-15-2007, 3:23 155972 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    quote:
    Originally posted by green_minstrey: Wrooooong!!! t t t t t t t t t t ;) Everybody is looking for love (or sex) and power in the contemporary society (especially american), if somebody excludes one of these, he does it because he's actually not really a part of contemporary society or maybe culture.
    OK, Mr., and where was I wrong? Am I wrong because I do not equate "love" and "sex" the way you did? People are looking for sex, power, money, comfort, STUFF ... that's exactly what I said in my previous post. Once most people become comfortable in life, their desire for love and romance disappears somewhere. Yes, it's a beautiful dream to entertain once in a while, but to actually go and fight for that dream is something that not many people are willing to do. Anywho, it's a pointless discussion because life repeats itself, and people (vast majority) do not change.
    "Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato
  •  07-15-2007, 3:28 155974 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    quote:
    Originally posted by James Bond: You both are sounding bitter.
    If, in your opinion, reality equals bitterness, then you are right (at least on my account).
    quote:
    Originally posted by James Bond: everybody is looking for love too...it's just the hardest thing to find.
    It is the hardest thing to find, I agree. Is everyone looking for it? Perhaps, everyone or mostly everyone wishes to have it, but I doubt that most people are actually putting enough effort, time and faith into looking for love. It's much easier to settle down.
    quote:
    Originally posted by James Bond: Why bad-mouth power or money?
    Who was bad-mouthing power and money?
    "Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato
  •  07-15-2007, 3:19 PM 155977 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    quote:
    Originally posted by 412: Describe life Marilyn Monroe in two sentences. That makes the behavioral outline. Basically, not waiting for a single prince, but jumping from one to another trying to find a better match, while being emotionally wrecked most of the time.
    Does the Marilyn theory go something like this? 1st marry for green card, 2nd marry for money, 3rd marry for love? lol THat all sounds exhausting - and by the time you get to round 3 I"m guessing all the good ones are taken. I had a friend over last night who's boyfriend's brother is addicted to "Russian Love" and that's what she was telling me. It seems that Russian women are now winning the cold war one relationship at a time, leaving behind a trail of wreckage ad heartbreak. lol ohhhh, I'm a little hung-over this morning - I wonder if my Acid or Alkaline levels are off? "Hopeless in Atlanta"
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-15-2007, 4:57 PM 155980 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    I'm just teasing here... "The Perfect Biological Weapon..."
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-15-2007, 5:35 PM 155981 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    I notice nobody wants to keep up with me on things that could actually save the Human Race so I will talk about same ole same ole with you all. Everybody is looking for love; most don't really know what love is however. Reality is completely subjective; everyone’s Reality is going to be deferent because that is how they made it. At another point, it's where your priorities are as well. Most people are searching for Materiel things because that is what they have been conditioned to do! If you observe life as something eternal, then your value system completely changes. Why spend a life time grabbing money when it just disappears again? We are all energy and if there is one thing I am certain of is that Energy cannot be destroyed. Therefore life lessons, my skills that I have learned and mastered my experiences and perception are far more valuable than money. Now don't get me wrong, Money is great, I love it, but why focus on it? If you consistently improve yourself money will come. It is the type of energy you summon that creates the law of attraction and that is the determining faction on what wealth you will have in your life, or to put it this way. (My own Quote) Most People spend their health getting their wealth and in the end lose their self, than in old age spend their wealth trying in vain to regret their health. So for me, most important of all is my health, Mentally, Physically and spiritually and that alone makes me a very wealthy man! :) P.S. Very funny 007
  •  07-15-2007, 5:42 PM 155982 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    This may sound hard.... But anyone who is looking for a russian/ukrainian/moldovan woman just because of her nationality is in for whatever rude awakening he receives. Anyone who shops for a woman for the way she looks will most likely receive heartache eventually. No nationality makes a woman better than another. What makes a woman better than another is character/values/outlook. Now it's true that, in general, Russian/Ukrainian women take better care of themselves and the way they look a lot longer than american women. Usually by 40, an american woman settles. I like this characteristic in russian/ukrainian women, and so do a lot of men. Hell, it's attractive and sexually stimulating for the woman you love to look good. This is just good old common sense. But the American women who take the time to take care of themselves into middle age get exactly the same results from their man as any other woman around the world. Only other thing I can say for russian/ukrainian women is they have a cute accent. But so do Hispanic women. I am fond of saying that I love my lady for who she is inside. Her being Ukrainian is not even on the radar screen of what really matters between us. Always judge others by the same standards as you would want them to judge you
    Make each day count to improve yourself and those around you
  •  07-15-2007, 5:55 PM 155984 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    Sappho, For many years, my reality made me a bitter person inside. One of the best days of my life was the day I started the process to free myself from this bitterness. One of the most important things I decided to do was to look again, no matter how hard, for that true, special love. That love I felt when I was 16 or 17 years old. I believed in it. And I wanted to find it again and live the rest of my life with this feeling inside my chest. You know this feeling, when just the touch of someone is enough to set you on fire. When the last voice you want to hear at night is that special goodnight from the one next to you, and that voice awakens you every morning. Forgive me for maybe making too many assumptions. But the words you used seem to me that you may have given up on your dream of finding that special love. Don't. True love and that special fire is worth fighting for. In fact, there may be no greater fight. I have been educated in the school of hard knocks, and my heart and life was completely broken in pieces. Picking up the pieces was not easy, but the joy of doing it was a balm to my soul. And God rewarded me with a second chance to be happy. Sure, life is bitter sometimes. But right after every valley is a mountaintop. We just gotta keep on walking. Always judge others by the same standards as you would want them to judge you
    Make each day count to improve yourself and those around you
  •  07-15-2007, 5:59 PM 155985 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    Right on point strap, it's like I'm allways telling my dear Margarita. We are all Human. When she asks me why I am not a patriot, I tell her I am a patriot, just not of my country, I am a patriot of the Human Race, that is the only way we will ever accept each other...
  •  07-15-2007, 6:30 PM 155986 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    i'm trying to visualize how your theory would all work in reality: say, a chick has a view on love similar to yours, guys. Everything is written down, in certain order, with items labeled in order of importance.... She's looking for love. OK. Then she meets me. The pain begins. She analyses every move, compares what i say and how to what she thinks I should have said if I were her "true" love. She stresses over every little detail, every move, every word different to what's in her book of wisdom...:-) HOW PHUCKING BORING! WHAT A PHUCKING PAIN IN THE ASS:-) SUFFOCATING would be the word!:-) you see what i'm getting at?:-)
  •  07-15-2007, 6:44 PM 155988 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    so, what about both of you, guys: do those russian chicks consider YOU as their true loves? Was it Warrior who said his woman (already!) told him he was naive? To a russian ear, when a RUSSIAN woman calls a guy naive, it sounds like a death sentence. Russian women do not like naive guys. That might be the sign she's loosing interest/respect, and some corrective action is in order.... but, sometimes, ignorance is a bliss. You might enjoy it for now, but -- not understanding the culture -- don't be surprised when one day, out of the blue, lightning strikes:-) PS: hopefully, it won't, of course:-)
  •  07-15-2007, 6:52 PM 155989 in reply to 14464

    с чем едять американцев?

    I know what your saying pom. I think you look at it from a different perspective from mine. I had an end goal, to find that "special" one. I believe I did. And she tells me the same thing. Always judge others by the same standards as you would want them to judge you
    Make each day count to improve yourself and those around you
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