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Last post 07-11-2007, 6:36 AM by KGBMan. 30 replies.
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  •  07-11-2007, 6:36 AM 14371

    female circumcision

    Up to 3 million per year worldwide and 66,000 in Britain... that is horrifying. How can anyone still do this? For that matter, how could anyone ever have done this? ~~~ Female circumcision a problem in Britain By D'ARCY DORAN, Associated Press Writer LONDON - Female genital mutilation, commonly associated with parts of Africa and the Middle East, is becoming a growing problem in Britain despite efforts to stamp it out. London's Metropolitan Police, Britain's largest police force, hopes a campaign beginning on Wednesday will highlight that the practice is a crime here. To make their point, police are offering a $40,000 reward for information leading to Britain's first prosecution for female genital mutilation, Detective Chief Superintendent Alastair Jeffrey said. In Britain, the problem mostly involves first-generation immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Police say they don't have comprehensive statistics about the number of victims. But midwife Comfort Momoh, who specializes in treating them at London hospitals and clinics and who works with police, told the news conference she treats 400 to 500 victims every year. Arranging or carrying out the procedure — in Britain or abroad — is a criminal offense punishable by up to 14 years in prison, but no one has been prosecuted since it was banned under British law in 2003, Jeffrey said. Police estimate up to 66,000 girls in Britain face the risk of genital mutilation. "The timing of this campaign is for one good reason: so we can get in before the summer holidays, a time when young girls are taken abroad and subjected to genital mutilation," he told a news conference Tuesday. Mutilated infants, girls and women face irreversible lifelong health risks — both physically and mentally, according to UNICEF and other charity groups. Authorities believe the number of genital mutilation cases peaks in the summer, because the extended school vacation gives girls more time to recover — thereby making it easier for those responsible to cover up their actions. Female genital mutilation usually involves the removal of the clitoris and other parts of female genitalia. Those who practice it say it tames a girl's sexual desire and maintains her honor. It is practiced by Muslims and Christians alike, deeply rooted in the Nile Valley region and parts of sub-Saharan African, and is also done in Yemen and Oman. Through migration, the practice has spread to Western countries like Britain. U.S. federal law specifically bans the practice. Between 100 million and 140 million women are believed to have been subjected to the practice in Africa and an additional 3 million girls face the threat of female genital mutilation every year, according to UNICEF. Detective Inspector Carol Hamilton, who has been investigating the practice since 2004, said some immigrants in Britain may bring practitioners from their home country to mutilate several children because it is cheaper. She said children not only suffer terrible physical injuries, but can also be left emotionally scarred. Salimata Badji-Knight was mutilated when she was 4 years old in her native Senegal. Now married and living in London, she fears she may not be able to have children because of the procedure. She hopes that by sharing her experiences she can prevent parents from subjecting their daughters to similar abuse. "Why do they need to go and mutilate a young innocent person without her knowing what is going to happen, just for culture?" Badji-Knight said. "It does not add up for me." Somali-born supermodel Waris Dirie survived a traditional form of the practice that kills hundreds of girls each year. French President Nicolas Sarkozy is set to present the "Chevalier de la Legion d'honneur" to her on Thursday for her work as a leading critic of female genital mutilation, which has seen her tour parts of Africa to speak out against the practice.
  •  07-11-2007, 11:42 AM 155725 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

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    Originally posted by Leah: "Why do they need to go and mutilate a young innocent person without her knowing what is going to happen, just for culture?" Badji-Knight said. "It does not add up for me."
    same can be said about male circumcision. both are barbaric practices, both are relics of the past, from thousands of years ago. but i find it hardly surpsising.... with people still worshiping god in the 21st century, what else can you expect?
  •  07-11-2007, 3:03 PM 155729 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    I am not convinced female circumcision is a religios practice.. It's cultural, and dealing with sex specifically. Not a religios commandment. Not a health decision. ________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский
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    "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский
  •  07-11-2007, 3:27 PM 155731 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    quote:
    Originally posted by pomidorchik:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Leah: "Why do they need to go and mutilate a young innocent person without her knowing what is going to happen, just for culture?" Badji-Knight said. "It does not add up for me."
    same can be said about male circumcision. both are barbaric practices, both are relics of the past, from thousands of years ago. but i find it hardly surpsising.... with people still worshiping god in the 21st century, what else can you expect?
    Although I personally agree with you about male circumcision, and wouldn't do it unless I had a child with someone whose religion demanded it, male circumcision does not leave the child unable to ever have an orgasm and possibly unable to have children. I also don't think it is about religion. I think once again religion is being used as an excuse for horrifying behavior (just as I find in about 90% of the so-called religious people I encounter daily, though usually not to this extent). I agree that it is about sex and also about controlling women and keeping them in their alleged place. Whatever the reason, the people doing this to their own children (or at all) should have their own genitals sawed off slowly with a rusty steak knife.
  •  07-11-2007, 4:06 PM 155733 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    geeeeezzzzzz.....Leah, you sound worse than Lorena Bobbit. it's no big deal on the male side. It's common practice here in the US to circumsize male babies. It's a 5 minute procedure - yeah, the kid screams like hell, but same as when you give them vaccinations. They are way too young to remember it. circumsized stays cleaner. And it's also about what you are used to. It definitely does not impact male sexual performance. Female circumsision lops off the clitoris - so yeah, it's completely unfair. There is a huge difference between doing it to males and females - as illustrated by the many laws against it on the female side. Amazing how confused people can be on this issue. "Atlanta by night..."
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-11-2007, 4:24 PM 155734 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

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    Originally posted by James Bond: geeeeezzzzzz.....Leah, you sound worse than Lorena Bobbit. it's no big deal on the male side. It's common practice here in the US to circumsize male babies. It's a 5 minute procedure - yeah, the kid screams like hell, but same as when you give them vaccinations. They are way too young to remember it. circumsized stays cleaner. And it's also about what you are used to. It definitely does not impact male sexual performance. Female circumsision lops off the clitoris - so yeah, it's completely unfair. There is a huge difference between doing it to males and females - as illustrated by the many laws against it on the female side. Amazing how confused people can be on this issue.
    James, My comment about the rusty steak knife referred to those who mutilate little girls. Can you actually think that punishment is too harsh? Since I said that I would consider male circumcision if it was important to the father, it is not even logical to think my comment referrred to those who circumcise both females and males. I also posted that although I would prefer to circumcise neither, there are vast differences between the two, so I don't know where you got the idea that there is confusion about the issue. That said, it is not comparable to a vaccination. Being cleaner is only an issue if the male in question does not wash himself. There are other differences as well, sensation differences for example. We are born with our parts for a reason.
  •  07-11-2007, 4:46 PM 155735 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    I have never heard there was a sensation issue between circumcised and uncircumcised males. Is this true? If so, I want my skin back... : ) And my whole life, I thought the little fella was working just fine... The whole issue of female circumcision is just awful. I can't understand anyone who wants to make sex not enjoyable for their little girl. I like Leah's suggestion of using the rusty steak knife on THEIR genitals. Sex is such a big part of life, one of the truly good parts. With so much misery in life, why take away one of the great things? Always judge others by the same standards as you would want them to judge you
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  •  07-11-2007, 4:59 PM 155736 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    Sorry - I couldn't tell if your rusty steak knife was aimed at me or not. I agree with you completely on the female side - if the doctors are put it in jail for breaking the law it will stop quickly. "Atlanta by night..."
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

  •  07-11-2007, 5:42 PM 155737 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    They are not doctors. They are practitioners. And it is done of cause to put women to where they are belong. The numbers are scary….
  •  07-11-2007, 6:25 PM 155739 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    quote:
    Originally posted by mkgilstrap: I have never heard there was a sensation issue between circumcised and uncircumcised males.
    how could you?:-) to know the difference you have to experience both:-) is there anyone on here who got cut after the tender age of 30?:-)
  •  07-11-2007, 8:27 PM 155754 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    when my girls were born in local hospital... the one on Reagan Pkwy - they were offering to circumcise them ..... я охуел.... I told them to go f.. themselfs...
    - Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
  •  07-11-2007, 8:28 PM 155755 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    quote:
    Originally posted by KGBMan: when my girls were born in local hospital... the one on Reagan Pkwy - they were offering to circumcise them .....
    Are you serious???????
  •  07-11-2007, 9:11 PM 155767 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    absolutely ALL women I've ever talked to about this have told me they prefer men with circumcised dicks... The disadvantage of being uncircumcised is SMEGMA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma). So unless uncircumcised guy cleans himself several times a day, he will have a stinky dick. That's some nasty shit, folks...
  •  07-11-2007, 9:13 PM 155768 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    Oh, and about people who circumcise their girls - I'm inclined to lean toward Leah's solution to that problem...
  •  07-11-2007, 9:17 PM 155769 in reply to 14371

    female circumcision

    quote:
    Originally posted by IntensityInsanity: absolutely ALL women I've ever talked to about this have told me they prefer men with circumcised dicks... The disadvantage of being uncircumcised is SMEGMA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma). So unless uncircumcised guy cleans himself several times a day, he will have a stinky dick. That's some nasty shit, folks...
    LOL!!! posts like this are what keep me coming back to this site for more!! "Your Ad here..."
    "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

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