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vopros s gnil'coy v korne, darling... oni vse te zhe homo sapiensy-- kak i my.... i glavnoe vse ochen' raznye-- kak i my...

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Vy s opredelenijami raberites' snachala- Kto est' americanec? i Kto est' "russkij"? Uzhe sdes' eto obsuzhdalos' v toj ili inoj forme-konchetsja stereotipami, obidami, i oskorblenijami- ili vsem srazu- rightfully so. Vopros dejstvitel'no gniloj, kak i skazali, i ne korrektnyj.

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вопрос как вопрос, у меня свои причины есть чтобы его задать. :) love and peace ^_O [url="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=684817"] Hey, franky peoply, listen to my music! quick-quick![/url] (free download)

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Pom, not having anything against your brilliant Professors and/or easy to use and reliable American Girls/Women--- who are you comparing them to? The fact thatyou either didn't see much on the "other side" or what you saw wasn't the quality you were looking for doesn't really prove anything... noone is superior/inferior in general just because they are Russian/American

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Here's my take: Russians of course have the advantage of better humor, slightly more knowledgeable in simple things like world geography, etc.. But in general, I prefer Americans. Here's why: as friends, Russians are very high maintenance. I have a few very good American friends who I sometimes don't call for 6 months. When I do call, we talk and catch up on things, or we may go and hang out. Very simple. Russians, you can't do this. All the Russian friends I have get all upset if I don't call them on a regular basis. The longer I don't call them, the more likely they will distance themselves from me and eventually just become nothing more than acquaintances. Also, Russians have all these annoying rules like when you go to someone's house you HAVE to bring something, otherwise it might offend the host. Or, if someone comes over to my house, my wife insists that we have to set the table, make tea, etc. I'm like, "why? why can't they just come over and chill? if they wonna drink or eat, we'll offer it.." Hanging out with Americans is just simpler. No headache. No worry that you'll offend, or that you didn't set the table well enough, etc. No bullshit. Just simple. I hope what I write here doesn't offend anyone...I'm sure Russians mean well, and actually, most Russians who live here for 15+ years stop being like that and start to prefer the simple ways of things like Americans :)

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Originally posted by IntensityInsanity: Also, Russians have all these annoying rules like when you go to someone's house you HAVE to bring something, otherwise it might offend the host. Or, if someone comes over to my house, my wife insists that we have to set the table, make tea, etc. I'm like, "why? why can't they just come over and chill? if they wonna drink or eat, we'll offer it.."

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You set the table even if there will be no meal? The tea I can understand. I usually have coffee ready, unless they are coming over for cocktails, and offer some sort of hors d'oeuvres, but I rarely use the dining room for any of this.

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Originally posted by Leah: You set the table even if there will be no meal? The tea I can understand. I usually have coffee ready, unless they are coming over for cocktails, and offer some sort of hors d'oeuvres, but I rarely use the dining room for any of this.

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Yea...you have to set it with something...cake, donuts, cheese platter, fruits...whatever...but something. Now, don't get me wrong - I think it's always nice for the host to set the table with something, be it fruit, cheese, etc. Nothing wrong with this. What I *don't* like is the fact that the host doesn't really have a choice. sometimes friends might come over and you just don't feel like setting the table. And it's not that the guests are gonna be so super offended. It's the Russian host that is gonna feel VERY uncomfortable. When people come over, my wife always sets the table. I keep telling her that it's not necessary but if she won't do it she won't feel comfortable...despite the fact that the guests might not even give a shit (especially if they are American). But my wife still has that Russian programming in her and she absolutely will not have people over unless there's something to set the table with. It's a cultural thing, and seemingly harmless, but it adds a touch of formality to all social activities and I don't like this. I like the American way where people just come over to chill, expect nothing in return, and don't give anything for it. When someone comes over I don't expect them to bring anything and likewise, they shouldn't expect anything from me either. That's how I like it.

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wow, seriously? you're in CA now, right? Aren't there lots of russians there? But it doesn't surprise me, Pom. You're a logical guy and I think in general a lot of Russian formalities, superstitions, etc. aren't logical. I think American 'simpleness' it actually more logical in general...more suited for people like you...

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Originally posted by ribelk: doesn't really prove anything

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ja sravnivaju po konkretnym resul'tatam. that's how things are in science: you either do it, or you don't. you either make a discovery, or you don't. that's all. a pogovorit' my vse mastera:-) without america this world would be a shitty place.

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ohhh, Pom, ...I'm by no means Anti-american at all.... the opposite woyld rather hold more water...I hope I'm never forced to choose sides though... as far as "things in science, sir almost Professor.... how about objectivity, statistical significance, standartization and other shit alike?..

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Originally posted by Leah: You set the table even if there will be no meal? The tea I can understand. I usually have coffee ready, unless they are coming over for cocktails, and offer some sort of hors d'oeuvres, but I rarely use the dining room for any of this.

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Yea...you have to set it with something...cake, donuts, cheese platter, fruits...whatever...but something. Now, don't get me wrong - I think it's always nice for the host to set the table with something, be it fruit, cheese, etc. Nothing wrong with this. What I *don't* like is the fact that the host doesn't really have a choice. sometimes friends might come over and you just don't feel like setting the table. And it's not that the guests are gonna be so super offended. It's the Russian host that is gonna feel VERY uncomfortable. When people come over, my wife always sets the table. I keep telling her that it's not necessary but if she won't do it she won't feel comfortable...despite the fact that the guests might not even give a shit (especially if they are American). But my wife still has that Russian programming in her and she absolutely will not have people over unless there's something to set the table with. It's a cultural thing, and seemingly harmless, but it adds a touch of formality to all social activities and I don't like this. I like the American way where people just come over to chill, expect nothing in return, and don't give anything for it. When someone comes over I don't expect them to bring anything and likewise, they shouldn't expect anything from me either. That's how I like it.

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Oh, I see. When you said "set the table", I thought you meant put out all the china, silver and crystal in place settings as though someone would take a meal there even though no meal was to be eaten. You simply meant have some sort of food available for guests and displayed on the table? If that is the case, I am on Kisulya's side. :) It is just a matter of hospitality. If someone comes over at the last minute and I don't have it available, I don't get embarrassed, but if I invite guests in advance, I also want to have something to serve.

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Originally posted by ribelk: how about objectivity, statistical significance, standartization and other shit alike

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Ribelk, how about I'll just sqeeze your cute butt, do a shot or two with you, tell you some funny stories, and then we'll go some place with music and dancing? ...............................forget standartization:-)

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Darling I told you before, but I'll repeat it one more time: I don't do cocky, snoby, condescending, or cheesy....my butt is been squeezed as is enough as is...I don't shit in the pool I swim....is there another reason I can come up with? ...actually I wouldn't protest music, dancing, funny stories or shots that much otherwise...

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Originally posted by ribelk: Darling I told you before

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ha?? my post was a joke, dude.. i don't do russian chicks:-)

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Originally posted by ribelk: Darling I told you before

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ha?? my post was a joke, dude.. i don't do russian chicks:-)

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hmmm. ... mine is too...at what point your sense of humor just decided to quit?

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Pom and II both did a great job, I agree :) Of course there are exceptions, but I think Green_minstrey specifically asked for stereotypes.. FOr me.. What I like in Americans, which is missing in almost all russians.. Honesty, transparency of personality, openness, tolerance, individualism, self-respect, "outside the box" thinking, creativity, humanitarianism, alturism. What I don't like in americans vs. russians: The complete reversal of everything I listed above (except self-respect) in professional life or when it comes to money, lack of a sense of personal responsibility for actions, inability to fix character flaws with anything other than drugs, hypocricy, blurred ethical boundaries in convenient situations, disrespect for "lesser" humans, reckless redefinition of codes of accepted conduct and human behaviour, pointless journey to the mirage of personal happiness.. Overall, its about a tie. You all suck. ________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский

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