McCain Scandal
Last post 03-21-2008, 1:40 PM by KGBMan. 38 replies.
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02-21-2008, 9:54 AM |
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This is not even from the current campaign... What did they stand to gain to "drop this story" now? Liberals really don't make any sense sometimes.
The story
Sen. John McCain denies assertions The New York Times published that McCain once had a close relationship with a female lobbyist whose clients had business before his Senate committee.
"I'm disappointed in The New York Times piece. It's not true," he told reporters in Ohio on Thursday, his wife, Cindy, standing by his side.
He added that he has never "done anything that would betray the public trust or make a decision" that would in favor a particular group.
Gou ni itte wa, gou ni shitagae.
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02-21-2008, 10:50 AM |
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02-21-2008, 12:45 PM |
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Egor
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Obama is being protected by the media like no politician in my time in the US :) Everyone is saying this will change. I hope so.
A few days ago his stupid-ass wife said something like "this the first time I am proud of my country" referring (i think) to the "coming together" of white/black, rich/poor, tall people/midgets, etc. in support of her husband. Can you imagine what the media would do to any other candidate? But with Obama - I had to actually watch Fox news to hear this.
McCain, on the other hand (in my opinion) is one of the most honorable, ethical, and intellectually honest politicians in the US. And still they find something. F*cking New York times, I've always despised this paper.
By the way, I've been leaning more towards Obama than McCain ever since McCain's been drifting to the right in the last few weeks. Normally, I would dismiss this as posturing and support the guy anyway, but it is precisely because I believe he means what he says, that I take any posturing at face value. I think he is making a huge mistake. This same mistake was made by both Gore and Kerry. Totally deserve to win the election, and handing it away by listening to unobjective partisan advisors whose sole talent is peeling away votes by appeasing narrow special interests.
________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский
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02-21-2008, 2:24 PM |
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No matter, none of this matters. . .
"I have this feeling man, 'cos you know there's a handful of people who
actually run everything. That's true, it's provable, it's not... I'm
not a fuckin' conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful. A very small
elite run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream
media. I have this feeling that whoever's elected president, like
Clinton was; no matter what your promises you promise on the campaign
trail blah,blah,blah... when you win, you go into this smoky room with
the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in
there...and you're in this smoky room and this little film screen comes
down. And a big guy with a cigar goes... ‘Roll the film.' And, it's a
shot, of the Kennedy assassination, from an angle you've never seen
before.....that looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll. And then the
film screen goes up and the lights come up and they go, to the new
president... ‘Any questions?' ‘Err, just what my agenda is?' ‘First we
bomb Baghdad.' ‘You got it.'"
Bill Hicks, 1993
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02-21-2008, 4:35 PM |
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KGBMan
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I'm so disapointed, it's like there is no fairness in US media anymore.... McCain thing get's published, but Hilary *** affair is not mentioned anywhere... WTF ?? Who's "fair and balanced" ???
- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
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02-22-2008, 12:27 PM |
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02-22-2008, 12:30 PM |
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02-22-2008, 2:29 PM |
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KGBMan
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outside of talk radio I haven't seen any attacks on Hillary. but if major news paper publishes BS story about one candidate, they should publish BS story about another, plus *** stories are so much more interesting ;) Talk Radio at least bushes both Hillary and McCain on equal opportunity basis 
- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
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02-22-2008, 7:08 PM |
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James Bond
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Egor -
Something is wrong when you and I agree on a candidate. To be clear, I'm voting for Obama on behalf of the 'angry white male' population.
I'm impressed that you would have considered McCain. I would imagine his comment about 'we will be in Iraq for 100 years' would have been hard on you. Especially after ALL the comments you made against the Iraq war, and those of us (me) who have blood on our hands. McCain is no different. In contrast, Obama clearly has no blood on his hands - that's what you have ALWAYS wanted.
I'm confident Obama will be the next President. He is clearly a smart guy. I just hope he is smart enough to get policies in place that defy The Establishment. If there was somebody that walked up to me and said, "Hi, I'm the Establishment" I would love to put my hands arount their neck and squeeze. That's the angry average American tired of being squeezed talking.
Anyway, I guess I won't cancel out your vote this year.
lol
"Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."
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02-22-2008, 8:03 PM |
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Egor
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James, about the Iraq thing, even Hillary voted for the authorization, would be just plain wierd if McCain didn't
Impressive that Obama was against, but I am not convinced that this was not simply a political gamble.
The 100 years thing, he already explained what he meant, and I believe him. Plus he is only running for 4.
All 3 of them continually criticized the administration since the war began, but only McCain has been almost prophetic in everything he has said and predicted even before the news turned bad. He publicly called for Rumsfeld's resignation like 2 years before he resigned, remember? And with the surge, i think McCain was the only guy on earth other than me, who thought we f*cked up bigtime, while still supporting the surge. Hillary and Obama have been precisely reactionary to public opinion at all times since the war began. Right now that means withdrawal, timed immediately and regardless of circumstances, and unwillingness to weigh options for a more positive outcome. So I really think the greatest US blunders are still ahead with these two. I have a suspicion Obama is smarter than that, and he is simply misleading to what extent he would actually withdraw, but he has no track record to evaluate him by, and is not under any pressure from the media to communicate with more precision. McCain will put some pressure on him in the debates, but he's been fine so far just plainly dodging everything.
So i've been drifting towards Obama, but I am waiting to see, with Hillary out of the picture whether he moves towards a semi-rational approach on Iraq. I know he couldn't do that so far, he would have lost to her, so lets see what happens.
________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский
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02-23-2008, 2:49 PM |
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KGBMan
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2 things, why l e s b i a n is a bad word and is replaced by ****** ??? WTF ?? second - found 2 funny sites about McCain... well maybe not funny. But I wouldn't be surprised if it all was true. Korean war proved how easily US prisoners were brainwashed..... http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_tedmancurin.htm http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm
- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
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02-23-2008, 9:48 PM |
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James Bond
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I think McCain is all 'Establishment'.
Bought and paid for.
With Lobbyist skeletons in his closet.
In fact, I'm guessing the situation now is this: he is the Republican nomintation, and now the Left is attacking him (very effectively) and suddenly the conservatives realize they need to support him financially or the Democrats will win. I'm hoping I am right that it's far too late to help McCain. Far too late. Personally, I could care less about the far right republicans - a bunch of ass*ho*les. So, let Obama win.
I'm quite sure the NY Times is right on, and I'm guessing old McCain did have a little fun with that hot number 30 years younger than him. He's human after all. It doesn't mean he isn't a great American war hero. But that's not what we need right now.
We need somebody that puts America first. Not themselves. Not the lobbyists. Not the Party. But Joe Average American.
"Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."
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02-24-2008, 10:43 AM |
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03-01-2008, 11:13 PM |
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James Bond
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I wonder if the problem with today's politics is that we are too far removed?
In WWII everybody knew somebody that was 'in the war'.
Now, it's so "political". Political meaning detached.
In WWII, as everybody on this site knows intimately, people suffered horribly.
Dare I say it?
It is time for accountability.
"Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."
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03-02-2008, 1:31 AM |
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