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If Hillary wins tonight

Last post 05-17-2008, 1:04 AM by Evgeny. 24 replies.
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  •  05-08-2008, 4:22 PM 188428 in reply to 188355

    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    412:

    And what's wrong with taxes if they are spent wisely?

    their amount and ability of this politicians to spend wisely Wink 


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  •  05-08-2008, 4:29 PM 188432 in reply to 188428

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    I don't think you can find 2 individuals on this planet who can agree on the wisest spending of their taxes. 

    Yet almost everyone thinks they should pay less.

    And there's the economic impact of higher taxes.

    I agree w what 412 said, but even the spending I agree with, I think our governemnt is overpaying and doesn't shop around for more bang for the buck.

    Solution: Newt Gingrich cicra 1994 - proposed a "balanced budget" amendment to the US Constitution Big Smile

    One of the reasons I like McCain.


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  •  05-09-2008, 9:21 AM 188490 in reply to 188432

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    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    Just think of the things the US could do for itself if it would slash the military spending in, let's say, a half?!

  •  05-09-2008, 10:23 AM 188494 in reply to 188490

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    Probably nothing.  We'd owe China a little less, that's all.


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  •  05-09-2008, 10:39 AM 188495 in reply to 188494

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    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    It would've been a great start.

  •  05-09-2008, 1:51 PM 188515 in reply to 188490

    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    412:
    Just think of the things the US could do for itself if it would slash the military spending in, let's say, a half?!

    that could never happened or it wouldn't be US. 

    US global dominance is based on military, any real economy still left in this country is also military related, you slash that - it will be time to move to another country. 


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  •  05-09-2008, 2:44 PM 188535 in reply to 188515

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    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    It's not gonna be the first time. . .

  •  05-09-2008, 4:28 PM 188575 in reply to 188535

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    this time is different.... and results will be devastating to US, positive for the rest of the world.

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  •  05-11-2008, 11:41 AM 188666 in reply to 188575

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    Let's get back to point.....  Though I agree there is very little "real" non military economy left in the US

    Sooo....   Obama won North Carolina due to the large black population overwhelmingly voting for him. This was predictable and not unexpected.     Hillary won Indiana by a hair after being as much as 10 points back in the polls.   By any stretch, this was a great come from behind victory...  Yet...                                                                                                                                                                                                            Look how this has been spun by the Democratic National Committee and the Liberal news media.   They have painted up Tuesday as a big victory for Barak Obama, a finishing touch.  Why?

    Because they ARE BIASED and want to see the furor in the Democratic party ended and a nominee chosen so the party can focus on the battle with McCain in the fall. Sure, Obama is ahead in delegates, but he hasn't secured the nominatin.  And since when did the media ever walk away from a big story that could fill air time?    The Party and it's surrogates (most of the media) understand the damage being inflicted by the continuing battle between Clinton and Obama.  Therefore, they are seeking to bring it to an end with spin.   I wonder what will happen if Hillary wins any more primaries this week?  They gonna say she "lost" there too?  

    More and more superdelegates are either coming out and declaring their support for Obama or they are switching from Clinton.  I noticed most of the ones who switched were black superdelegates who had come out for Clinton early and have now found themselves out of touch with the current happenings.  They simply want to ride the train they think is going to win so they can claim a share of the pie if Obama really does become president and be able to say they "supported" the black candidate to their black voters back home.

    Obama has huge mountains to overcome if he wants to become president.    Sad to say many older americans will not vote for him because he has a muslim name.   Many older americans also will not vote for him because he is black.   Though I do not personally buy into any of these arguments, I am of a different generation than Americans 60 and Older, most of whom at one time supported segration at one time in their lives or other.  Of course, they will cite any other reason as to why they didn't support Obama than these two, but these two will be the real reasons why they vote for McCain.

    Secondly, Obama is way left on the political spectrum, and not just on the war in Iraq.  Clinton, at least, in closer to center on a lot of issues, though not all.  Obama's "leave now" stance on the Iraq war doesn't make any sense to many Americans.  This is akin to invading Normandy in World War Two, fighting your way across France, winning the Battle of the Bulge, Fighting your way across the Rhine, and then, when half way to Berlin, offering to surrender to the Germans.   This is NOT how one fights a war and everyone knows it.   If you start it, you finish it.   This attitude won't play well in middle america.

    Thirdly, Obama hasn't articulated what he wants to "change" and how.  He needs to do this.  He doesn't understand that, yes, Americans want a change away from the wasteful fighting between the two parties, but that he needs to say exactly how he intends to accomplish this process.  If I buy a car, I want to know how it rides.

    There are other points,  but enough.  Response?


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  •  05-17-2008, 1:04 AM 188913 in reply to 188340

    Re: If Hillary wins tonight

    Egor:

    By the way, forgot to add... anytime a candidate promises to do unpopular things.. raise taxes for instance.  You are looking at an open book.   Or for McCain - not indiscriminantly pulling out of Iraq.  These are the things where you KNOW they are not lying.

    McCain has just recently announced that by the year 2013 most of out troops will be out of Iraq (just a day or two ago news). Didn't he want to stay there for 100 years just a month ago? Gee, I wonder what he will be saying when democrats finally choose their candidate ready for a debate with him.

    "These are the things where you KNOW they are not lying."

    Really? :)

     


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